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Spain Spanish Colonial 1/2, 1, 2, 4, and 8 Reales (Carolus III and IIII) 1772 to 1808
These coins are known as Spanish (Hispan) colonial coinage because they circulated freely in the many New World colonies of Spain. You can find essentially the same coins in Bolivia, Chile, Columbia, Guatemala, Mexico, Peru. The coins from Mexico carry the distinctive Mo or oM mint mark -- a small 'o' set over a large 'M'. Coins from Chile bear an So or oS mint mark for Santiago, Chile. There are many other mint marks, as explained below.
Coin: 2334 , Genre: Colonizers and Colonies
Requested by: bruce, Sat, 19-Dec-2009 02:22:34 GMT
Answered by: Paul, Mon, 07-Jul-2014 01:33:34 GMT
Updated by CoinQuest. Appraisal ok., Fri, 28-Jun-2013 23:34:46 GMT
Requester description: 1800 charles 1111 8 reales
Tags: spain spanish colonial colony 1 2 4 8 reales real carolus carol iii iiii espana spainish hispan espanas hispanirvm spanich hispana espania espa hisp espanola colonies reale karolus karolvs charles karol carolu charlie carolvsvidg carolvs rex ind mo plus ultra mexico bolivia guatemala colombia rexm rexind rexx rexetind etind exind meican mex mexicana mexicanos mecican mexio nexicana mexicano mexican boliviana bolivariana bolivianos bolivian gautemala castle column pillar crown tiara lion tiger coat arms shield columns upright crowned crwon crpwn crowns tiarra crowning tiera lions cougar coats crests insignia crest creast sheild shiled shied chevrons shileld shild escucheon shelid chevron ashield shields
Hello I have one of these coins but it's all scratched up on the front I would like to know if its worth anything it was given to me by a family member *email address deleted* - Jessica Henry
Jessica -- Scratches ruin coin value. Collectors will not buy scratched coins. Your coin is worth its weight in silver (about $20) and not much more. - CoinQuest (Paul)
See the new GNL Book in Amazon Books to help differentiate between counterfeit and real 8 Reales. Just released. 600 pages. $40. Enjoy! - John Lorenzo
Here's the link: [Press Here]. Thanks, John, for writing this book. When are you going to write one on detecting Chinese fakes? - CoinQuest (Paul)
hello i have one of these it is a 1789 2R with a Chile Mint mark and it has a D.A. for the 2 letters and i see you don't have a D.A. there what would mine be? - Akramer
The 1789 DA 2 Reales are not specifically listed because it is not a special date. It must be evaluated according to the general values listed further up on the page. - CoinQuest (Chris)
I have a 1783 Carolus iii M 2R with the letters FF. what would the value of this be? I did not see one for 1783 M 2R FF! - Beth
The 2R means '2 reales.' The values above for values of 2 reales: 2 REALES CAROLUS III GENERAL VALUES (25 mm diameter) worn: $25 US dollars approximate catalog value average circulated: $75 well preserved: $125. The M means Mexico and the FF are initials of the mint master. Neither of these factors increase or lower value. - CoinQuest (Paul)
Hi. I have a 1790 Carolius IV 8 reales coin, (obviously with a portrait of Carolius III), minted in Potosi, Bolivia. Mine has an oval counter stamp in the portrait's neck, containing another portrait, which seems to have been applied in quite a clumsy manner. It is slightly off alignment, resulting in the portrait's face tilting upwards slightly. Can you tell me anything about it, please, as I cannot find anything on-line. - Deke
Hi Deke -- These Spanish coins were so prevalent that other countries would use them to support commerce. They circulated in America, for instance, and became the basis of our silver dollar. Britain, during coin shortages, would use them also, counterstamping them with a small oval or rectangular punch. If you search online for 'counterstamp' you will find good info. We have a general page on them, with pictures and approximate values, at this link [PRESS HERE]. - CoinQuest (Paul)
Hi Paul. This is a reply to your very informative answer to my previous question regarding the counterstamp on my 1790 Carolus IV 8 reales coin. The image on your link is exactly the same as my counterstamp, i.e. British, and I am absolutely delighted to learn about this! Even the slightly off-alignment is the same. Thank you so much. - Deke
I got a 4 reales from 1803 . From mexico the face is Worn down but the back Looks ok. - Javo
Javo, be sure to read the two letters after '4 R' on your coin. Coins with the letters '4 R.F.T.' catalog at $85 US dollars when worn, while coins with the letters '4 R.F.M.' are quite scarce and catalog at $220. Hopefully you've got the 'F.M.' variety! - CoinQuest (Chris)
I have a 1773 8R FM carolus 111 in reasonable condition would you have an estimate of it's value. - Stewart
Evaluating these cool coins takes some work, as explained on this page. The first step is to determine the country of origin. See the table of mint marks as shown on this CoinQuest page [Press Here]. Once you know the country, use the listings on this page to get general values of Carol III coins, then check the special value listings to see if you have one of those. The FM initials should have little effect one value, but the mint mark does. - CoinQuest (Paul)
I have a 8r coin minted in Mexico City in 1789. It says Carolus iii on the front and not Carolus iv!? I just bought it at a coin shop, the heads side is pretty worn so it's hard to detect tell tale signs that it is counterfeit. Any advice on this? - Scott
Hi Scott. Charles III of Spain died on December 14th, 1789. The first trans-Atlantic telecommunications were not conducted until 70 years later, in 1859. The news of his death would have taken a while to reach the mint workers in Mexico City. Thus, a large amount of coins dated 1789 were released into circulation, still with the name of Charles III. Possibly, coins might have been struck with next year's date prior to the start of the new year, so that a batch of fresh coins was ready for release. It's also possibly that due to a need for coins, the mint had to keep striking coins in the name of Charles III until the new dies were ready. A new set of dies were hastily produced, with a short-lived coin type in the name of Charles IV struck in just 1789 and 1790. A new type soon followed. In any case, the 1789 Charles III 8 Reales from Mexico City are not especially scarce, even if they are posthumous. The catalogs currently report the value as $75 US dollars for worn coins, increasing to $225 for well preserved coins. For comparison, the 1788 coins are worth the same when worn, and $200 when well preserved. - CoinQuest (Chris)
I have a few of these coins that were somehow turned into Egyptian Jewelry pieces with great detail and was wondering if this deminishes the value of the coin completely? - Brent
Yes. Mounting in jewelry always brings the numismatic (coin collector) value to zero, or close to zero. But your pieces are still valuable as jewelry. To get them appraised, take them to a jeweler. A numismatist will not be able to help you. - CoinQuest (Paul)
I have a lot of 8 Reales Carolus for years 1780, 1784, 1785, 1787, 1788 and a 2 Reales of 1777. How I can sell them and how much? - Paul
Approximate values are listed on this page. These are inflated catalog values, so expect to sell your coins at less than these values. See our Important Terminology page for how catalog values work. You can sell your coins on eBay. You can take out a free advertisement on this web site. Our page about the three methods used to sell coins appears at this link [PRESS HERE]. - CoinQuest (Paul)
I have a 1776 Charles III coin Carolus III dei Gratia 1776 Mo 8r Can you tell me what this is worth
no scratches and in very good condition Thank You, Darrell - diana
Darrell the price is similar with GENERAL VALUES for 8 reales look up in the text. Maybe you can add some extra value(25$ to 50$) because your coin is a little bit rare. The best way for your coin is to grade it to one of the companies NGC, PCGS, ANACS vs ICG. - CoinQuest (Andrei)
Hi! I`m diana can you tell me how much is worth the carulos III 1789 4R ?
Approximate values are shown on this page. - CoinQuest (Paul)
I have a 1783 Carolus III 8R minted in Mexico by FF. I see a 1784 coin with these markings for $500. Is there any difference in value between the 1783 and 1784?
Yes. 1784 FF is a special date. Use the GENERAL VALUES on this page for your 1783 FF. - CoinQuest (Paul)
hellow i have a carulos III 4R the face of the coin has fade how much it worth?
I think your coin has melting value. - CoinQuest (Andrei)
I have a 1792 Carolus IIII minted in Lima, Peru by IJ. It's 8 reales. And from what I've seen from pictures it's in near perfect condition. What is the estimated value?
See 8 REALES CAROLUS III GENERAL VALUES. These are approximate values. Individual coins may vary by plus/minus 100 percent. An in-person appraisal by a professional or advanced collector will produce a more accurate estimate. - CoinQuest (Paul)